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Post  Admin Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:01 pm

Ok so do you guys wanna base it on the video. If so lets get some figures going

Lets start with a small scope, a small hwy in a city


How much money would it cost.

How many people do we need working on it.

and so on.

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Post  AB201992 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:15 pm

does it have to be bigger than a city scale ??

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Post  Admin Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:35 pm

its a prototype, so know. We are looking way to into this.

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Post  AB201992 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:36 pm

Do u guys want to meet ?? I don't feel this is going to work this way ! lets meet for an hour or two at school or somewhere else & finish it ... i don't think it would take that much time ... it doesn't have to be all of us ... whoever can make it lets just do something ... what do you think ?

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Post  Admin Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:39 pm

I cant , i will Just do it. I ill have it done by 9. Kalvin my writing sucks so if i write it down here will you revise it for me? Also I will give everyone a part to do for our presentation. It will be very easy

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Post  AB201992 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:48 pm

If you think you can do it, go for it ... I just don't want to throw everything on you !

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Post  AB201992 Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:48 pm

I will be online anyways if you need any help

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Post  Calvin Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:53 am

I don't have a problem editing, but I think we should bang out some ideas here first just so Allen doesn't have to do this all himself.

To begin with, the old highway will have to be closed down piece by piece to allow for the integration whatever this virtual track will be. It would probably be most efficient to manufacture very long strands of these optical sensors so that a truck could lay and set this track at the same time. Perhaps existing trans trucks could be modified to set the track, cutting down on costs.

Thoughts?

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Post  Admin Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:20 am

THIS IS WHAT I GOT SO FAR. ADD to it, KALVIN IF YOU CAN REWRITE THIS THAT WILL BE GREAT. I will keep on writing.



Automated Hwy ( urban / suburban )

Our group is designing a prototype automated hwy for a small city. The city's highway will be roughly 20 miles. It will roughly have exits every 1 mile. With a total of 20 exits and 20 on ramps.

The technology we will be using will incorporate infrared lighting, pressure sensors and a modification to existing cars. We designed this project trying to use existing technology.

Let us first start by explaining our design. It will be a 8 way highway. 4 lanes will be for traveling in one direction and the other 4 will be used to travel in the opposite direction. Pressure sensor (which you can find at any red light around town) will be embedded in the concrete along every lane. The electrical aspect of the pressure sensors will also be installed underneath the concrete. All the pressure sensors will be connected to a main frame PLC. The PLC will be use the pressure sensors as inputs to determine the location of any vehicle on the highway. Also Tiny infrared light will be placed one inch apart along the entire highway. These infrared lights will navigate the vehicle along the highway.

The infrared light will be controlled by the plc and light up when a given vehicles destination is known. Vehicles will also need to be fitted with new infrared sensor detection located on the bottom half of the vehicle. A touch screen inside the vehicle will ask for destination. A wireless signal will send the destination and current location the main frame PLC.

For example lets say you are about to get on the new highway and your on board touch screen prompts you where you would like to exit. The plc will then determine your current location with the pressure sensors and guide you with the infrared lights. The on board computer and plc will determine your acceleration and deceleration. Once again the other vehicles around you will also be tracked by the main frame plc and calculate paths which will create the best flow of traffic and cause know accidents.


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Post  Admin Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:54 am

Fiance - Each lane will be about 6 feet wide. So a a width of about 48 feet will be required + a one foot center divider. There are 5,280 feet in a mile and we need 20 feet worth. So we need enough concrete for 20 miles ( 105,600 feet of concrete).

This will equal a total surface area of 5068800 feet squared. We will need a depth of about 1 foot. The minimum volume of concrete will be equivalent to 5,068,800 Cubic feet. Concrete cost about 15 dollars per cubic yard. So the cost of concrete alone will be $76,032,000. We will require about 1 pressure sensor in each lane every 5 feet. At a cost of 20 dollars per sensor the total cost of sensors will be equal to (168,960 sensors * 20 dollars ) $3,379,200. We will require a main frame PLC with a godly amount of inputs and output for around 100,000,000 dollars (+programming). Electrical wiring will cost roughly 10,000,000. The surface area of the hwy in INCHs will be equal to (5068800 feet squared * 12 inches ) 60825600 inchs squared. If we have the infrared sensors spaced out 1 inch apart we would require (48 * 12 = (576/ 2) = 288 * (105,600 *12 )/2 = 633,888 infrared sensors. A large grid connecting all the sensors along the freeway to the PLC will cost roughly 633,888 sensors * 20 dollars each (with installation) 12,677,760.


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Post  Admin Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:57 am

Time Frame - We are building this hwy from scratch. We are not rebuilding an old high way. Estimated time will take about 2-3 years completion.

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Post  Admin Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:59 am

Maintenance for the highway will be very easy since the PLC has a connection to all the lights and sensors. The sensors have a life about 10 years and the lights will be 5-10 years.

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Post  Admin Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:00 am

Guys im just making this stuff as we go along.

Add to it. Make some stuff up.

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Post  AB201992 Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:28 am

ok we will need at least 50 worker in every mile just to put the concrete together ... this means ( 50 * 20 miles) = 1000 worker. if we say it will take 1 year for the concrete & i'm assuming the salary is $1000 a month so $12000 a year for each worker & you have a 1000 worker so a total $12,000,000.

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Post  AB201992 Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:08 am

Add to that, the Engineers needed for this project:
- 5 Analysis Engineers involved in the mathematical modeling & physical problems: $40,000 salary * 3 years= $120,000 each. so a total of $600,000 ( 120,000 * 5 engineers ).

- 3 Design Engineers to determine the availability of materials, ease of production, and performance requirements: $50,000 salary * 3 years= $150,000 each. so a total of $450,000 ( $150,000 * 3 engineers).

- 10 Test Engineers to ensure structural integrity, performance, and reliability: $30,000 salary * 3 years = $90,000 each. so a total of $900,000 ( $90,000 * 10 engineers ).

- 3 Research Engineers: $50,000 salary * 3 years = $150,000 each. so a total of $450,000 ( $150,000 * 3 engineers).

- 1 Sales Engineer to Finance the project: $50,000 salary * 3 years = $150,000 each. so a total of $150,000 ( $150,000 * 1 engineer ).

- 1 Management Engineer: $60,000 salary * 3 years = 180,000 each. so a total of $180,000 ( $180,000 * 1 engineer ).

All the expertise will cost in total ( $600,000 Analysis + $450,000 Design + $900,000 Test + $450,000 Research + $150,000 Sales + $180,000 Management ) = $2,730,000

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Post  AB201992 Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:21 am

So the whole thing with what Allen mentioned is: ( $76,032,000 concrete + $3,379,200 pressure sensors + $100,000,000 PLC + $10,000,000 Electrical Wiring + $12,677,760 Infrared Sensors + $12,000,000 workers salaries + $2,730,000 expertise salaries ) = $216,818,890 ! Very Happy

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Post  AB201992 Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:24 am

Ok, I guess that is everything ... we are done with the cost, and the Technical stuff ( how does it work ) . what is left is the design ... this is easy we'll take about it tomorrow in seconds ... and the stamp of approval I guess we can approve it Razz

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Post  Calvin Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:26 am

Would you like me to type this up?

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Post  AB201992 Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:32 am

Ya please if you don't mind ... but make two separate reports ... 1) the cost of the project. 2) the mechanisms. & that's it no need for a powerpoint ... It will be easy to explain !

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Post  Admin Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:34 am

yes please calvin.

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Post  Calvin Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:25 am

So I reworded the explanation portion of the project, but just copy and pasted the finance part. Hopefully that's alright..
They'll be printed out on two different sheets.
As far as the guarantee goes, perhaps a successful implementation in a small city can be guarantee enough that the new highway will be safer than driving yourself.

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Post  AB201992 Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:32 am

great it will be alright ! .. Thanks

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